Noah Cicero on the ULA

Noah Cicero, author of Burning Babies, has left the Underground Literary Alliance, a/k/a “The King Wenclas Show.” He talks with Tao Lin about his departure.

Wenclas is fine by himself. Nobody would be screaming at him to shut up if he just had a site by himself. A blog where he screamed about literature. And maybe a site where essays like the monday reports went up with guest writers. But he decides to create a movement to combat the McSweeney’s movement. Both of them are fabricated movements. You can’t just go, “Hey who wants to be in a movement with me?”

They also discuss Cicero’s own writing, authors he admires (including Bret Easton Ellis and Jean Rhys), and the public’s dwindling appetite for fiction.


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